# Curie’s Principle: Not a theorem, Not even for Ismael

Twenty years ago now, Jenann Ismael wrote a fascinating little article called "Curie's Principle" (1997 *Synthese*), which discussed a symmetry principle due to Pierre Curie:

“When certain effects show a certain asymmetry, this asymmetry must be found in the causes which gaves rise to them” (Curie 1894).

It’s an intriguing principle — for example, it has applications in particle physics! — and there are lots of great ideas in Ismael’s article. The article also did a wonderful service in helping to bring Curie’s Principle to the attention of philosophers. However, one of the central claims of Ismael (1997) is to have formulated Curie’s Principle as a mathematical theorem, argued for in Section 3 of the paper, “The Proof”.

In fact, Ismael’s statement is not a theorem. The formal argument given in the article is invalid, and in particular contains an erroneous first premise. I’d like to explain here in clear terms what went wrong, and why even Ismael’s statement of Curie’s principle is false.

** http://cfpaldomoro.it/?m=guaranteed-no-telecheck-payday-loan Note:** my intention is really not to beat up on this lovely little article, which I very much enjoy! But I would like to set the record straight on matters of fact, especially for students interested in this subject.

### Ismael’s statement of Curie’s principle

There are lots of statements of Curie’s principle out there. I am interested in Ismael’s (1997) mathematical formulation: begin with a set (a set of “causes”) and a set (a set of “effects”). Assume that every cause has no more than one effect, by asserting that the causes and effects are related by a function . Ismael views this (possibly many-to-one) function equivalently as a subset such that, if and are both in , then .

Finally, let a “symmetry transformation” be a pair of bijections: one on , and the other on . These are formally different functions, since they have different domains. But I will follow Ismael in a slight abuse of notation, by dropping the subscripts and just writing for both and .

The statement of Curie’s principle that Ismael formulates is then the following.

source url Statement.Given a function between sets, and two bijections and , if it is the case that (symmetry of the cause), then it follows that , where (symmetry of the effect).

Some readers will immediately see that this statement is false. The bijections and the function are totally arbitrary and unrelated, so this surely cannot be true! But before getting to that, let me go through Ismael’s argument, as it illustrates a key point that I would like to make.

### The purported ‘proof’

Ismael’s argument in Section 3 (pg.170) has only a few components, which can be summarised as follows.

*(1) Let be in (the set of pairs or “solutions” characterising the function ). Then is also in . [Ismael refers to these together as “a pair of solutions” without further argument (p.170).]*

*(2) Let (symmetry of the cause).*

*(3) Combining 1 and 2, we get that and are both in .*

*(4) But is a function, so (symmetry of the effect). [Ismael writes, “any Curie-cause has only one physically possible effect among the B’s and it follows… that ” (p.170).]*

** payday loan in yorkville il The error in this argument is in the very first premise.** There is certainly no guarantee that an arbitrary bijection will act invariantly on an arbitrary subset . For example, assume has just one element, and has many. Let be a singleton, and let map this singleton to any other singleton; then . A similar example: let map every element of to the same element , and let map this to a different element. Then (where ), so . Thus, Ismael’s first assumption fails: does not always mean that .

There are more physical counterexamples, too: let’s give these symbols a physical interpretation. Suppose we’re describing a falling rock near the surface of the earth, and that the pairs represent the initial and final states. Suppose further that is an ordinary symmetry transformation, like rotation in space. Then it is certainly not true that the symmetry-transformed initial and final state will always be in the solution set.

To see this, suppose the rock begins at rest at a position above the ground, and ends by colliding with the ground at a few moments later. In Ismael’s notation, this “solution” to the law of freefall is the pair . Let our symmetry transformation be “rotation 90 degrees anti-clockwise about the initial state “. The initial state is obviously invariant under this rotation, while the final state gets rotated to a point on the horizontal. Thus, it certainly doesn’t follow that is a solution to the laws of freefall as Ismael suggests: the rock falls down, not sideways! The counter-example is illustrated in the animation below.

### As a counterexample to Curie

This is not just a counterexample to Ismael’s first premise, but to Curie’s principle more generally: a symmetry of the initial “cause” is not necessarily a symmetry of the final “effect”, in that but . John D. Norton (in 2016 / preprint) has identified a slew of similar counterexamples, including one quite similar to the example above.

Castellani and Ismael (2016 / preprint) have repeated Ismael’s (1997) statement above, quoting that formulation of the principle verbatim:

“Ismael (1997, 169) writes: ‘What the principle says depends crucially on how the terms ’cause’ and ‘effect’ are understood…. Let and be families and respectively, of mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive event types, and let the statement that is a Curie-cause and its Curie-effect mean that the physical laws provide a many-one mapping of into .’ So construed, the principle is quite general. There is no restriction on what the terms of the relation can be. … Someone who wants to apply the principle simply has to find a functional relationship.” (p.1009)

I hope it is now clear that, precisely because there is no restriction on what the terms of the relation can be, Ismael’s formulation of Curie’s Principle is not generally true at all. Someone who applies it simply upon finding “a functional relationship” rather does so at their hazard.

### A correct statement

One of the lessons of the above discussion should be that there must be some systematic relationship between the symmetry transformation and the causal law if something like Curie’s principle is going to be true. Many have recognised this, and managed to formulate correct statements that they refer to as Curie’s principle. Here, I will just point to my own version, which appears in my (2016 / preprint) take on Curie’s principle in electromagnetism; there, I use the phrase “Curie’s Hazard” to refer to what Ismael calls “Curie’s Principle”.

Regardless of how one calls it, here is a proposition in the neighbourhood of Curie’s Principle that is actually true.

npl loans in usa Proposition.Let and be sets, and let and be bijections. If is a function such that,(symmetry preservation) for all ,

then Curie’s principle is true, in the sense that (symmetry of a cause) only if .

The proof is an easy exercise (and found in the 2016 paper I cite above).

It also indicates a straightforward lesson: Curie’s principle is only true under a judicious interpretation of “causes”, “effects”, and “symmetries”, in addition to a strict limitation on their relationship (which I call “symmetry preservation” above). And, as Norton (2016 / preprint) points out, the suggestion that such a limitation is an “analytic truth” is often a dubious exercise in causal metaphysics.

### The road forward

Katherine Brading once asked me, following a chat about Curie’s Principle, what remains for researchers and students in the history and philosophy of physics to do on this topic. I wanted to end with a few thoughts about that question.

** click here What not to do.** As you might discern from the above, I don’t see much use in further attempts to state an “analytic formulation” of Curie’s Principle for general causal metaphysics. Norton’s article above argued, conclusively in my view, that this programme is fruitless. And the facts regarding simple mathematical statements resembling Curie’s Principle seem to be more or less understood.

However, there remain at least three topics of interest, where I suspect a clever young researcher could make interesting progress in the field.

** enter site What to do in the history and philosophy of physics.** Curie originally made use of his principle in order to calculate the electric field that is produced when a crystal is compressed. This curious phenomenon, which Curie and his brother Jean discovered, is called the Piezoelectric Effect, and has interesting applications for renewable energy. But Curie’s original use and understanding of the principle has still not been thoroughly explored. Most treatments have focused on his (1894) reflections, cited above. But the principle also appeared in one of the founding articles on the Piezoelectric Effect, which Curie wrote with his brother in 1882 (see pg.247). Very little historical work has been done on this article that I know of, and remains ripe for the picking for a (ideally French-reading) researcher or student.

Moreover, a symmetry principle resembling Curie’s continues to be used in the modern field of plasmonics, such as in this (2017) usage as a selection rule for photonic crystal defect modes. Only some very early philosophical work has been done in understanding the conceptual basis and generality of such principles (e.g. in my 2016 article above), and it would be helpful to have an account that clarifies and explain the justification of such symmetry principles in this (and in Curie and Curie’s 1882) application (and especially if they turn out to be false in general!).

** go here What to do about dualities in physics.** Another important symmetry principle of intense interest in recent physics and philosophy is the notion of a duality. A classic example is the duality that exchanges the electric and magnetic fields in electromagnetism with magnetic monopoles. One schema for philosophical analysis of dualities in physics as simple “isomorphisms of theories” was recently suggested in a remarkable series of papers by de Haro and Butterfield (“A Schema for Duality, Illustrated by Bosonization“), de Haro, Teh and Butterfield (“Comparing Dualities and Gauge Symmetries“) and de Haro, Mayerson and Butterfield (“Conceptual Aspects of Gauge/Gravity Duality“).

A consequence of this (often merely conjectured) relationship between dual theories is that *“a symmetry of a theory is a symmetry of its dual”*. This idea, though strongly reminiscent of Curie’s Principle, clearly goes beyond a context where the language of “cause and effect” stands a chance of being clarifying. However, a more careful conceptual analysis of how such principles are being used in physics may prove fruitful, for example as a heuristic for interesting conjectures, or as a foundation for understanding dualities. These wonderful papers by de Haro, Butterfield et al. are an excellent place to start!

** payday loan company in maryland What to do in philosophy of science more generally.** Curie’s original use of his principle, though widely explored in the philosophy of physics, has received no attention at all in the philosophy of sciences outside physics. Nevertheless, the claim that “A symmetry of the cause is a symmetry of the effect” may turn out to play an interesting role in the philosophical foundations of other sciences, such as biology, medicine or economics, were a creative philosopher of science to take up the search.